Conversation Summary 2023-04-28

An experiment in which GPT4 was asked to organize the traffic of discussions on Twitter and also to suggest next actions to make the discussions more productive.

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Summary:

nishio believes that the Japanese are not repulsed by government-issued IDs and are more interested in Decentralized Massmedia than Decentralized IDs.

hrjn doubts that fact-checking can be done with crowd knowledge.

nishio argues that the truth or falsity of fact-checking is not important, but rather the gathering of diverse information.

hrjn believes that the exchange of ideas and factual reporting are different, and he doubts that the new media, even if effective, can function as news reporting.

nishio is not interested in defining the press and agrees that new media are valid.

Common points:

Interested in Decentralized Massmedia.

We believe that new media are effective.

Differences:

nishio believes that diversity of information is more important than the truth of fact-checking, but hrjn emphasizes the importance of fact-based reporting.

nishio is not interested in defining the press, but hrjn considers the difference between the press and new media.

one more thing...

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Actions to be taken by nishio:

Narrow the focus of the discussion: Because the discussion is too broad, it is important that nishio focus on specific topics and questions to establish a common understanding with hrjn.

Provide examples: to support the claim that Decentralized Massmedia actually works, it is effective to cite existing examples and studies to demonstrate its effectiveness and benefits.

Organizing and summarizing opinions: As the discussion progresses, it is important to summarize and organize as appropriate to make each other's opinions clear and easy for others to understand.

Asking questions: To encourage further consideration of hrjn's opinions and questions, you can develop the discussion by asking questions.

Respect each other's position: It is natural to have different opinions and viewpoints, so respecting each other's position and continuing dialogue will help develop a common understanding.

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nishio: Most Japanese are not that opposed to government IDs, so their reaction to decentrized IDs is a lack of real feeling, like "Oh, I understand the logic behind the need for it". I think what many Japanese will feel more is decentrized massmedia, since they thought Twitter would be an alternative, but it wasn't.

In many cases, we are judging facts based on the credibility of the person explaining the facts, and in few cases, we are actually looking at the facts.

>nishio: I imagine that anyone can throw in a seed fact, and as it gradually spreads from a small number of people, it will be refined through the process of fact-checking, such as the ratio of approval to disapproval.

What's a fact check that doesn't identify facts?

All data is a lie. We use data knowing that it is a lie. And from that, we can determine the more correct truth. That is the path to judgment. But how can the truth be determined from a lie? From a different point of view, every data has some shadow of truth in it. (KJ method, "Let the chaos speak for itself," p. 71)

For example, it's a mystery to me if this was refined in the recent past.

I think the concept expressed by the diagram of the interference effect of ideas in Jiro Kawakita's "Idea Method" is a very good one, but the diagram itself is not easy to understand. So I drew a new diagram.

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"Should same-sex marriage be legally possible?" may have more than yes/no answers, so new media mediating diverse ideas may be effective, but it is not the same as reporting that deals mainly with what seems to be facts.

New media enabled -> Yes

Both are what I was trying to say, and I'm not interested in whether or not there's an argument about whether or not it's called reporting (and I wasn't talking about reporting in the first place).

So you saw this and interpreted "new things that have been replaced" as "reporting"?

I think that interpretation is certainly possible.

>nishio: I wonder if we can replace the media that does not report what it should do, and only reports what it shouldn't and what it doesn't give a shit about, with a combination of Polis and Mastodon or something...

So, I've often wondered about similar things, but in the end, I'm talking about the fact that it's generally difficult to rely on the crowd for the certainty of information, so I feel like it's no different than mass media in the end.

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